Dark Dialogue
Giving voice to the voiceless — one case at a time.
Step into the shadows with Dark Dialogue, a longform true crime podcast committed to telling the stories that often go unheard. Hosted by John and Angela, this flagship series goes beyond headlines and into the lives of the missing, the murdered, the unidentified, and the overlooked.
Through in-depth investigation, survivor advocacy, expert analysis, and community memory, we dig deep into cold cases, stalled investigations, and systemic failures. Each episode honors the victims — not just as names or cases, but as people with stories worth telling.
Whether it’s a high-profile mystery or a forgotten file in a dusty drawer, Dark Dialogue aims to reignite attention, uncover truths, and create momentum toward justice. Because every voice deserves to be heard
Episodes

Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
When a 14-year-old’s evening walk ends in tragedy, the town of Armada, Michigan is shaken to its core. In this episode of Dark Dialogue, John and Angela dissect the early investigation that turned a nameless “man on the dirt bike” into a household name—and a prime suspect.
Follow the crucial leads that shaped the case:
Eyewitness accounts of a helmeted rider who shouldn’t have been on the trail.
Digital footprints from April’s phone and Sports Tracker app, mapping her final desperate moments.
Family secrets and fractured loyalty within the VanCallis household that helped dismantle an alibi.
Through testimony, technology, and relentless persistence, investigators painstakingly pieced together a case where DNA and weapons were absent—but the truth spoke through data, memory, and detail.
You’ll hear the emotional weight of a town in turmoil, a family divided by loyalty and truth, and a victim whose story continues to echo far beyond Armada. This is the moment rumor became evidence, technology converged with testimony, and the fight for justice gained its first decisive momentum.
✨ Dark Dialogue brings you atmospheric storytelling, forensic deep dives, and unflinching humanity at the center of every case.
📢 Calls to Action
If you believe every story deserves to be heard:
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April Millsap mattered. Her story continues—one lead, one listener, one dialogue at a time.

Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
On July 24, 2014, the quiet town of Armada, Michigan was forever changed when 14-year-old April Millsap set out for a walk with her dog and never came home. What began as a summer evening stroll on the Macomb Orchard Trail ended in a brutal attack that left investigators — and an entire community — reeling.
In this episode of Dark Dialogue, we take you inside the earliest hours of the investigation: the discovery of April’s body, the haunting evidence imprinted on her skin, and the chilling clues left behind. We break down the autopsy findings, the forensic trail, and the first wave of interviews and community leads that shaped the manhunt for her killer.
From suspicious vehicles and anonymous tips, to the digital breadcrumbs hidden in April’s FitBit and cell phone data, we uncover how investigators began piecing together a story written in both violence and silence. This episode also explores the emotional fallout for April’s family, the shock that spread through Armada, and the community’s first steps toward unity in the face of tragedy.
🔎 What you’ll hear in this episode:
A step-by-step breakdown of the crime scene and forensic evidence
How April’s digital trail provided investigators with a silent witness
Early suspects and leads — from a “white van” to local teens — and why they were cleared
The community’s grief, fear, and resilience in the wake of the murder
A heartfelt tribute to April’s life, dreams, and enduring impact
⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains detailed discussions of violent crime and autopsy findings that may be distressing for some listeners.
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Because April mattered. Her story deserves to be heard. And together — we keep the dialogue alive.

Friday Aug 22, 2025
Friday Aug 22, 2025
She was just 14. A daughter, a dreamer, a life that mattered.
On July 24, 2014, April Millsap leashed up her beloved dog Penny and set out on the Macomb Orchard Trail in Armada, Michigan. Minutes later, she sent her boyfriend a chilling text: “I think I almost got kidnapped.” By nightfall, Penny returned alone—and April’s body was discovered just off the trail.
In this first chapter of Dark Dialogue’s April Millsap series, John and Angela take listeners beyond the headlines. Who was April Millsap? What were her dreams, her passions, and the ordinary life she lived in a small Michigan town before everything changed?
Through intimate storytelling, we remember April not just for the horror of her final moments, but for her kindness, her laughter, her bond with Penny, and her dream of becoming a veterinarian. Her story is more than a crime—it’s a legacy of love, community grief, and the resilience of those left behind.
👉 Listen now to hear April’s story from the beginning.👉 Follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode in this series.👉 Share this episode to keep April’s name alive and help ensure that her memory is never reduced to a headline.👉 Support our work by joining the Dark Dialogue Collective, subscribing on Substack, or donating via Patreon or Ko-fi—every contribution helps us shine a light on victims who deserve to be remembered.
Because April Millsap was more than a victim.She was a daughter, a friend, and a bright life stolen too soon.

Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Thursday Aug 21, 2025
Heather Dawn Church’s story shattered the silence—and exposed the chilling truth about one of America’s most calculating killers.
In this final installment of The Forest Kept Her Silence, we confront Robert Charles Browne—the drifter whose fingerprint ended Heather’s case and whose later confessions claimed up to 48 more murders across nine states. Was he telling the truth, or was it the ultimate manipulation?
Join John and Angela as they unravel Browne’s arrest, his cold and methodical confession, and the disturbing letters that taunted investigators. Hear how Detective Lou Smit and Sheriff John Anderson built a case that finally gave Heather’s family answers, and why a legal loophole may have spared Browne from a death sentence.
This episode isn’t just about justice—it’s about the legacy of those who refused to let silence win, and about remembering Heather not as a victim, but as a daughter, sister, and voice that changed everything.
👉 Listen now to hear the conclusion of Heather Dawn Church’s story, and the haunting questions that remain.👉 If Heather’s story moved you, don’t let it stop here—follow or subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode. The more people who hear her name, the harder it is for the truth to be buried.👉 Want to support our work? Visit darkdialogue.com for case files, bonus material, and our Adopt-a-Victim program. You can also contribute through Patreon or Ko-fi to help keep these investigations alive.
Because Heather Dawn Church mattered.And her voice will never be silenced again.

Thursday Aug 14, 2025
Thursday Aug 14, 2025
When Heather Dawn Church disappeared from her Black Forest, Colorado home in 1991, the trail went cold—until legendary detective Lou Smit stepped in. In The Fingerprint in the Silence, John and Angela take you inside Smit’s methodical, victim-first approach that transformed an overlooked piece of evidence into a game-changing arrest.
From his early days solving some of Colorado’s toughest murders—including the infamous Karen Grammer case—to his faith-driven commitment to justice, Lou Smit brought a rare blend of skill, patience, and empathy to every investigation. In this episode, you’ll hear how a single latent fingerprint—ignored for years—finally identified Robert Charles Browne, one of Colorado’s most dangerous killers.
This isn’t just the story of a solved case—it’s a study in what happens when the right detective refuses to stop listening. You’ll follow the pivotal moments, the overlooked clues, and the relentless pursuit that ended a family’s nightmare and restored a stolen truth.
🎧 What you’ll hear in this episode:
Lou Smit’s career and investigative philosophy
How Sheriff John Anderson’s decision to bring Smit out of retirement changed everything
The forensic re-examination that turned a cold case hot
The arrest and confession of Robert Charles Browne
A moving tribute to Heather Dawn Church
If you believe in shining a light on the cases that matter, follow, rate, and share this episode. Every listen keeps Heather’s name alive and fuels the fight for justice in other unsolved cases.

Friday Aug 08, 2025
Friday Aug 08, 2025
When 13-year-old Heather Dawn Church vanished from her Black Forest, Colorado home in 1991, the investigation faltered. Evidence was mishandled. Theories went nowhere. The system stayed quiet.
But one man refused to let her be forgotten.
Retired Colorado Springs Police commander John Wesley Anderson watched from the sidelines as the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office stumbled—and decided that if they wouldn’t fix it, he would. His campaign for sheriff wasn’t about politics. It was about purpose. Winning meant the chance to rebuild a broken department, reopen cold cases, and demand justice for Heather.
In this episode of Dark Dialogue, we uncover:
How a failed investigation pushed Anderson to run for sheriff in 1994
The scandals, culture, and investigative breakdowns inside the sheriff’s office before his win
Why bringing in legendary detective Lou Smit was the key to changing everything
This is the story of how one election—and one determined cop—turned silence into action.
🎧 Listen now to discover how Heather’s case went from forgotten to front-page news—and the lengths one man would go to for justice.
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Monday Aug 04, 2025
Monday Aug 04, 2025
Thirteen-year-old Heather Dawn Church was supposed to be safe. She was home alone doing her homework in the quiet, wooded Black Forest of Colorado when she vanished without a trace. Her schoolbooks were still open. The lights were on. And her little brother was fast asleep. But Heather was gone—and no one heard a thing.
In this gripping first installment of our Heather Church series, John and Angela take you deep into the night of September 17, 1991, and into the heart of a case that was mishandled from the start. We explore the failings of the El Paso County Sheriff's Office, the assumptions that led investigators astray, and the evidence that was overlooked.
But this isn't just a story about a botched investigation. It's about the people who refused to let Heather’s name fade into cold case files. One man in particular—John Anderson—was so haunted by this case that he came out of retirement and ran for sheriff just to fix what others had broken. And he didn’t do it alone. Legendary detective Lou Smit, known for his later work on the JonBenét Ramsey case, would join the fight for justice.
We also shine a light on the haunting atmosphere of Black Forest itself—where ghost stories and real-life tragedy coexist.
This is not just the story of a crime.It’s the story of what happens when someone decides failure isn’t an option.This is Dark Dialogue.And this is The Girl Who Vanished from Her Own Home.
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Friday Aug 01, 2025
Friday Aug 01, 2025
In this gripping final installment of our Brianna Maitland series, we confront the shadows one last time—and ask the questions that still haunt a community.
On March 19, 2004, 17-year-old Brianna Maitland vanished from a lonely Vermont road, leaving behind a mystery that has defied answers for two decades. Her car was found backed into an abandoned farmhouse, keys still in the ignition, personal belongings untouched—and no sign of Brianna.
Over the past five episodes, we've peeled back the layers: a dangerous drug scene, fractured friendships, and chilling serial killer speculation. But now, with new DNA evidence, a tip about a silver Honda Civic seen near the scene, and modern investigative tools, we bring you the most complete picture yet.
John and Angela examine every theory with brutal honesty—from unlikely serial predator scenarios to deeply personal betrayals. Was Brianna lured by someone she trusted? Silenced over a drug debt? Or taken by an unknown local whose secret has held for twenty years?
We weigh each theory, assign likelihood percentages, and shine a spotlight on the witness sightings, overlooked leads, and what we believe is the most probable scenario. This isn’t just a recap—it’s a reckoning.
👤 Victim Tribute Included: We honor Brianna's life, her family’s enduring fight for justice, and the friends who never stopped remembering her for who she truly was.
🎧 Calls to Action:
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Because someone knows what happened that night on Route 118—and we’re not done asking.
Listen now. Speak up. Stay vigilant. And keep the dialogue alive—always.

Monday Jul 28, 2025
Monday Jul 28, 2025
In this chilling installment of Dark Dialogue, we venture into the shadows that connect two of the most unsettling disappearances in New England: Brianna Maitland and Maura Murray.
Brianna vanished in 2004, her car discovered mysteriously backed into an abandoned farmhouse wall. Just six weeks earlier and 90 miles away, Maura Murray disappeared under eerily similar circumstances. No struggle. No trace. No goodbye.
In Episode 5: Crossroads of the Vanished, John and Angela unravel the speculative—and controversial—theory that these women may have crossed paths with a serial predator. We examine the known monsters lurking in the area at the time: Israel Keyes, Brian Rooney, Howard Godfrey, and the ever-present specter of the unknown serial killer. But with each theory, one unsettling question remains: Did a stranger really have the opportunity, or is the truth much closer to home?
Through expert analysis, known offender profiles, and hardline FBI findings, this episode lays out why the serial killer hypothesis might be less plausible than it first appears—and why Brianna likely knew the person she was meeting that night.
👉 Don’t miss this compelling deep dive into the darkest theories surrounding two of the Northeast’s most baffling mysteries.
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Because these stories deserve more than silence.
Dark Dialogue – The shadows speak. We listen.

Friday Jul 25, 2025
Friday Jul 25, 2025
In Part 4 of our Brianna Maitland series, Dark Dialogue dives into one of the most personal—and controversial—chapters yet: the brutal assault Brianna endured just weeks before she vanished.
Seventeen-year-old Brianna was punched in the face at a party by Keallie Lacross, a former friend, in what many describe as a jealousy-fueled attack. The injuries were severe: a broken nose, concussion, and long-lasting emotional fallout. Brianna filed charges—but they were dropped after she disappeared.
Was this just a teenage fight… or something deeper?
John and Angela dissect the personal turmoil Brianna faced in the weeks leading up to March 19, 2004—from shifting relationships and toxic friendships to signs of fear that hinted something wasn’t right. Was she being followed? Did someone she trusted turn on her?
We explore how interpersonal conflict, unresolved trauma, and a chaotic living situation might have created the perfect storm. And we confront the tough question: Could someone in Brianna’s inner circle be responsible?
If you believe the truth matters—listen, share, and join the mission.
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Because Brianna deserves more than silence.







